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From Britney to Babylon
This week, we’re blending the serious with the silly in a casual episode.
We talk Britney Spears and Kevin Federline, dig into the Epstein Files, debate ancient mysteries, and laugh about modern politics.
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Welcome to New Scott. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to New Sky. It is me, E B, and I am here with Connie.
SPEAKER_04:We made it back.
SPEAKER_00:We're back. Day late and the dollar short, but we are here. Um, right. So last week I told a little fib. Uh I shot my mouth off before I had done the work uh and told you guys we were gonna be doing a human stories episode. And we are, we're still gonna be doing that, just not today, um, because I want that episode to be better, and we've got some really cool stuff that's gonna be um some like submissions and some friends have given us some stuff, and it's gonna be really, really good. Um, so today we're gonna do something a little bit different because it's one of those weeks and I don't feel like doing work. So we're gonna be doing a casual episode, a relaxed fit, if you will, which is a little head nod to last podcast on the left, which is a personal favorite of mine, and I believe one of Connie's favorites as well.
SPEAKER_04:Uh yes, and if I could tip my head to it and be like, um, we're here, you fuckers.
SPEAKER_00:We're here, you dumbers. Anyways, this is a casual episode, as you could tell. Uh, no rules today, no notes, no outline. We are just gonna be chatting shit um and seeing what comes out. We'll talk about some news stories, some current events, our opinions, our thoughts, and then when we're tired of talking, we will end the podcast. And that is what you're in store for. I think we should just start off with probably the biggest thing that I've seen, of course, in my chronically online TikTok world is the Britney Spears and Kev Fetterline drama that is just kicked off.
SPEAKER_04:See, and I don't follow it, I'm just seeing it from the outside, and as a parent, like when I hear the way that things have been going, I'm sitting back like, oh my god, crazy. Everyone was traumatized. Everybody all have access to help. So, like, what is going on?
SPEAKER_00:It's a mess, it's an absolute mess. Uh, for those who don't know, Kevin Fetterline has just released or is about to release a new book which details his life with Britney and his relationship with Britney and their experience with Britney as a family. Um, and he's been going on the press tours, giving some interviews, and sharing some of the events in the book, and that's got everybody pretty mad. Um, which don't forget, I think a year or two ago, Britney released her book uh with all of her stories in it, her side of the story, and a lot of stuff, weird stuff about Justin Timberlake, apparently. Like she still keeps a letter from him uh in in a frame under her bed, which is a bit crazy.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't know that, and it is going on.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, Kevin Fetterline's got a new book out, and he's he's telling stories about Britney and Justin and him and Britney and stuff that happened with the kids. Uh, and it's got a lot of people mad. If you go into any of the comments of the official press for this video, they're horrific. They're calling him everything but the devil, man. Like it, they they hate Kevin Fetterline. They've everybody's hated Kevin Fetterline for forever, right? And I don't really have any judgments on that because to me in the early 2000s, who experienced it, he came off as a douchebag. But he has kept the kids out of the spotlight, and this is kind of his first time actually speaking up.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, but this is this is the first time I've heard about them.
SPEAKER_00:Like he doesn't give interviews, he doesn't talk about stuff. He's never taught interesting. Yeah, his kids weren't even on social media, right? Until they're like 20 now or something.
SPEAKER_04:It's incredible. I'm sorry, but just from like just that fact alone as a parent, keeping your children off social media is so important when we live in an age where like you've got parents that will put one picture of their kid on their Instagram, see how many people engage with it, and then start getting addicted.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly.
SPEAKER_04:There's like some views and the potential money that comes with it. So, like, for him to not profit off his children through social media.
SPEAKER_00:Those kids could have been cash cows if he's kept them out of the spotlight. We're just now starting to see them and hear from them, and they're in their 20s now. What? Yeah, they're in their 20s for two sons.
SPEAKER_04:No, because that makes me feel old.
SPEAKER_00:Please don't say that out loud. Yeah, they're like, I think they're like 20 and 21 or 20 and 22 or like 18 and 20. So they're like, they're they're no, they're they're adults, they're legally adults, and he's just now starting to talk about stuff. And some of the things that were ledged in the book, I'm not gonna buy the book because again, I don't I just I don't I don't want to feed into this beast, as it were, financially, that is the Britney Spears soul-sucking black hole of chaos. But um, this is his kind of first foray into it, and one of the stories that I saw him talk about in the press release was that the kids told him that they woke up in the night one night with Britney just standing in the door holding a knife watching them sleep. And she didn't realize they were awake. And when she did realize they were awake, she kind of got startled and she went, Oh, are you not uh are you not sleeping? Are you awake? Something to that effect, and it really scared the kids. And he was using this as an example of this is why the children, sorry, this is why the children didn't want to have a relationship. This is why, as teenagers, they they distance that relationship with their mother because there's been a lot of crazy stuff. And he also said that everything that's gone on behind the scenes is ten times worse than anything he shared in the book. He was very explicit about that, about he's not shared the worst. He will not share the worst because he doesn't want to expose his son's mother that way, basically insinuating that there's some bad shit that's on.
SPEAKER_04:Like I'm sitting back here with parental shock face. Like, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:It's yeah, I mean we might have to like take a picture, post a picture. Yeah, it's it's literally a horror film, but he is getting bullying left, right, and center. Like, people are just absolutely railing him and just being like, All you want is child support, because the child support is now ended, because he he took the kids to Hawaii, which people are also mad at him about. They're like, Oh, you just did that because child support there is until they're like 21 or 22 or 23 or something. I see it differently. I see completely differently.
SPEAKER_04:People are children until they're 25. Your prefrontal cortex isn't even grown until then. So maybe he was just like, No, these kids actually deserve the money that their mom has so that they can live a decent life.
SPEAKER_00:And frankly, I think if you're a children who brings children into the world when you are clearly not ready to, right? And I'm not saying I'm not talking about her mental health, I'm just talking about the place that Britney was in when she started having those children. She had no business having those children, she was way too busy. Her career was absolutely insane. She couldn't go anywhere without the paparazzi absolutely mobbing her. And there was no.
SPEAKER_04:I grew up hearing about her and her husband.
SPEAKER_00:It was crazy. There, that was not the lifestyle to bring children into. So, as far as I'm concerned, when you're a celebrity who brings children into that, and then they end up growing up in a world of chaos, you should have to pay for them fucking forever, in my personal opinion. If you've got the money for it, you better be giving them something forever. Because that is just uh to me, that's just me. That's just me from on the side of the kids.
SPEAKER_04:But look, I'm a mum. I'm over here, like, I don't care how old my kids get, if they need something from me, I will provide it because if I was a multi, multi-multi-millionaire, they'd have trusts.
SPEAKER_00:They I would make sure that they were never gonna like you know, they would have to have responsibilities, but yeah, yeah. Like those kids should have money.
SPEAKER_04:There'd be goals set with each age gap, you know. Like if by this point, I would like for you to be able to have this kind of education or this kind of whatever, so that you can actively use this money correctly in a safe way that doesn't harm people around you or yourself, like 100%.
SPEAKER_00:Give the kids the money, like her fans don't want that. Her fans, I this is what I think, right? Whatever I don't I don't know what Kevin's ultimate motivations are, right? Because I don't freaking know him, but I do know I have watched this fandom for years and years and years, specifically the free Britney fandom. It's I don't think it's just like Britney Spears fans, because I've had like mega Britney Spears fans that I've been talking to the last day or two talking about this issue, who've been like, I love Britney Spears. She is my favorite thing in the entire world. I think she's a goddess, but he's not lying about this stuff, right? Those I think are Britney Spears fans, right? It's the Free Britney mob who have been horrific about these children since they were young, has said horrific things about them, believes horrific things about them. You go in these comments about like in the videos of Kevin Fetterline on this press tour, and there's people still talking shit about Britney's kids in there, saying they're all like Kevin. They're just greedy, money hungry, disgusting.
SPEAKER_04:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and and just call it for what it is. Is this a large group of white women that don't know how to support like any human other than someone with a pastry complexion? 100% like we don't know how to actually build community or support anyone properly, so we're just gonna scream at anyone that hates the people that we think are the best in the world. That's to me, it's mostly child support isn't even designated by the person or the person that's paying it, like the courts decide that shit. They're the ones that do the calculating, so like everyone's blamed. If she's earning lower income one year, then the child support goes down.
SPEAKER_00:Like they're also he's also had to raise those two, he's raised both of those children since they were infants. She had those kids for like two years, and then that was it. He had full custody after that, and she didn't even see the the the babies, right, for quite a while. Because this is when the conservative this is when she was shaving her head and running around barefoot in bathrooms smashing windows and stuff. So they took the kids away.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So he's he's had he has raised them to adulthood, and that's a that is a job. I don't I don't care who he was married to or what socioeconomic thing, if you're doing it correctly, it is a job, and he's whatever it is, he still has to organize for their lives and oversee those children and make sure that they receive whatever care it is that they're getting. So he should be paid for that too. That is a job, and and it's this, it's this free Britney thing, and it's just the same as all the other toxic fandoms. It it's it's just absolutely turned into this like monstrous everything's okay. You can't say if you say anything, like the like the video I made on TikTok yesterday that started this kind of conversation. All I said was, I'm not a Kevin Federline fan. This is not pro-Kevin Fetterline. I'm not justifying anything he might have done in the past because he kind of came off as a douchebag to me back then, right? Like, I I'm I'm not pro him. However, he's kept the kids out of the spotlight. He wants to tell his side of his story for his children about what they all experienced.
SPEAKER_04:Like, what the children are happy with him doing that, like at the end of the day, by the sounds of it, they had a part in this process, whether they helped him write the book or not, or they did like they were like, look, don't put these stories in, you can talk about this stuff. Because by the sounds of it, they didn't have well, they didn't have social media. So if they didn't actually like he's respected, yeah, like he's respected those wishes. So there has to be a point where like he's had them a part of the process going, no, dad, I don't want this in here, I don't want that in there, you know. Yes, you can talk about this, like that in and of itself, like it seems it seems like he's not trying to like I get it, like he's gotta make his own money in life now that he doesn't get the child support or whatever. But exactly essentially, if he's been smart with the money for the kids, then he's obviously got savings.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, his wife works, she's worked the whole time they've been together.
SPEAKER_04:This this they've been together now for like 17 years or something, and she's right, and he hasn't put the raising of his children to a like high-level superstar on another woman. He's done it himself.
SPEAKER_00:Exactly. They basically, he and the kids basically just they went to Hawaii, which is also smart because they were able to disappear from the public eye much easier than if he had kept them in Los Angeles, where Britney's twirling around with knives and dog shit all over the floor, and her her videos are I it made me physically uncomfortable. It made my stomach turn. Well, on her social medias. Yeah, her recent videos are fucking dark, dude. I they're it's dark. There's bad, bad, bad stuff going on.
SPEAKER_04:I am not going to venture over there. I do not need that trauma.
SPEAKER_00:I'll share some of them on the Patreon, but no, it's um uh she was wearing one of her dresses from like 2001, and she keeps doing these really weird spins, and she's all she's got bandages on her hands, bandages on her.
SPEAKER_03:2001. Um we're not even into that era of bringing that fashion back yet, Brittany.
SPEAKER_00:She's like she cuts the crotch out of it, and she she posts like three of the same video with like weird music over the top of each one, and then in one of them, she's got the crotch cut out of the dress. Like she she cut this little so it looks like this, she's got this flap right over her genitalia. Uh and it's really dark, dude. I went, I went and watched all of them, and she spends a lot of time in Mexico. I think there's a serious, serious alcohol problem. She also speaks in weird accents. She's she never talks like her, she always talks in a weird accent. Sometimes it's British, and then sometimes it's like Spanish, and uh, she never seems sober. She's she she posts these really weird videos of like falling over. She's not she's not joking, she's not joking when she's doing this.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. There's like a there's using like uh like because it was someone with a a a kid kids and myself, ADHD autistic, like using ecolalia. It can be fun, it can be a fun thing. But if you're effectively choosing to have a full-on conversation, well she'll repeat herself.
SPEAKER_00:You don't have yeah, when what did you say? She'll she'll repeat herself. And it's there they're like these uh and again, here's the thing, right? I don't have any problem with Brittany just spending all day twirling in a mirror with knives if that's what she wants to do. But something there's something odd about this behavior that's like that's like compulsive or like obsessive, and I think there's maybe some substance abuse going on. Like she seems in most of the videos when she's in Mexico, she seems drunk. She seems drunk, and she's got what looks like stainage from the crotch area on her these silk dresses, and she's just like walking around with this open stainage in the front and the back, and she can't stand up straight, and she's like trying to flip her hair and she falls over, and it's just like really uh like we've talked about like the addiction to the spotlight before in our last episode.
SPEAKER_04:We talked about how the addiction to spotlight can be so dangerous. And if you've got trauma and you have potential mental health issues and and substance abuse issues, like yeah, she recently burned down. There you go. Like that all sets you up for like the the cycle that puts you in a position where you are not in uh one, you're not safe, and two, you're doing shit that literally puts you in more precarious positions and has people talking about you, literally.
SPEAKER_00:And I think a big part of it, she should not be on social media. I I think she turns the comments off on Instagram.
SPEAKER_04:If you're drunk, you shouldn't have your phone. Like, I'm sorry. If you're drunk, if even if you've been like if you're wasted, no, go yeah, put your phone down. You should be scrolling, not posting.
SPEAKER_00:I think there might there's one video in Mexico as well where there's tons of white powder all over the floor. I don't I mean it could be baby powder or something, but it it's just the behavior's really weird, the video is really, really weird. Um, she's like cuts videos. It's it's she's not baking, she's not cooking. And look, again, I don't I think part of her not being in this conservatorship should have required her not being on social media because I think when she posts these videos, she turns the comments off because obviously people are like, What the fuck is going on here, right? What the hell is this, Brittany? Are you okay? So she turns the comments off, but she still gets all the likes, and I think that's all she cares about anyway, is the likes, the likes, the likes, which gasses her up and tells her, Well, I can keep doing this, I'll just keep in this train of behavior. I think if she didn't have that access to social media, she might be more likely to be like, Oh shit, this is maybe I should go and talk to somebody. Yeah, maybe.
SPEAKER_04:I understand her not being under conservative shit. Like, but does she not have a manager? I don't know. Does she not have someone like because like I don't think so? Even the most like new to social media people that start getting famous, like the first thing they do is get someone to help them navigate what being on social media actually looks like and and how this like how I fear Brittany has now been told that's your you're in charge.
SPEAKER_00:I fear Brittany in the current mental state that she's in has now been told you are the boss and no one can tell you no now. You can do whatever you want. The conservatorship's over, you can do whatever you want.
SPEAKER_04:When you have that level of popularity, naturally, like she has been followed and cult followed, like it's it's like it's as bad as the Spice Girls, you know, like people fall over for the Spice Girls. Yeah, and Brittany Spears is the same level, and it's and and like the new generations might not quite understand it the same. Well, like, and I can't believe I'm saying that that makes me feel so fucking old right now. But like we grew up sitting in front of a TV screen that you had to change the channel with a freaking knob, yeah, watching Britney Spears duck, watching her sing, watching that red latex, like that that was go anywhere, she would get mobbed anywhere she went. Like basically, so famous. If you if you even remotely managed to dress like her, yeah, like people would like it's you were the most popular person at school. If you could sing her songs, oh my god, you know, like she was massive, and this was at like such pivotal points for so many people's like upbringing that like, yeah, she she gained a cult following that has lasted lifetimes. I'm a metalhead though, so I did not continue that cult.
SPEAKER_00:No, did not I didn't either, no. No, I was out of there pretty quick.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that was definitely like young, young times, and like I know my gay brother was very much into Britney and still was very, you know, like he was very much, but not participating, but I know he watched the whole like free Britney stuff and like mentioned it to me a couple times, and I'm like, okay, cool, like hope she gets help.
SPEAKER_00:I suspect, just like I suspect of the Ariana Grande hardcore fans, that they're not actually the fans that they claim to be, and they want to be.
SPEAKER_04:I shouldn't be allowed to talk about that woman because I don't have a nice thing to say, and it's purely because like she's she's I had I you she what Ariana Grande, hey, at least she's donated to Palestine and she posts anti-Trump, anti-MAGA stuff, and she posts resources. Cool, you're trying to save your ass after you stole someone's dude out from underneath them. Like what?
SPEAKER_00:I I don't think I would want to be friends with her necessarily.
SPEAKER_04:Um I'm sorry, a broken clock can be right twice a day. That's it. You can you can be anti-genocide, but that doesn't mean that you're not a piece of shit. Because that like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, apparently he's anti-genocide. What? Which is great. We love an anti-genocide, but like I just said, a broken clock can be right twice a day. We can acknowledge that something has happened is broken.
SPEAKER_00:Something has happened because Marjorie Taylor Green is now anti-genocide and pro-Epstein files getting released.
SPEAKER_04:Marjorie Taylor Green.
SPEAKER_00:Marjorie Taylor Green is a right wing American politician, MGT, if or MTG, if you look her up. Uh, she was like crazy crazy cocoa banana puffs, nut right wing anti-vaccine.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, I can't absolutely mental pro like trump trump trump trump trump I'm a big believer in like you can change your mind and you can do better, but that doesn't mean you should still have the platform. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, absolutely. Well, she uh something something happened when she went into a because she's like high up in the Republican Party because she was such a big scandalous sensation because she's you know, no COVID vaccines and like like really crazy like vaccines give you autism.
SPEAKER_01:Um god, one of those, yeah, one of those.
SPEAKER_00:But she went into a committee meeting a few months ago for the Epstein files, and the media was outside the chamber doors, and she came out sobbing and like ran down the hallway and disappeared. And since then she's come out and she's she shouldn't be getting away.
SPEAKER_04:Was her husband on the list? Was her husband on the list?
SPEAKER_00:Dunno. I actually don't know. I actually don't know if she is married because there's been a bunch of anyway.
SPEAKER_04:Oh no, no, actually, I shouldn't even say that because we know that right wing, like those right wing women are never really married or anything, and if they are, they're in like despaired fucking marriages because like they are too much of a pick me and they have a voice, and men that want pick me's want pick me's that are dead inside in silence.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I think she might be suppressing some stuff, is the vibes that I get from her personally.
SPEAKER_04:But right, right, yeah, one of those when you go to the gym teacher would be like you're gay, your Christian gym teacher is so hard that you become a danger to everything around you. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Those are the vibes I get from her. So, yeah, Marjorie Taylor Green, she went to this committee meeting on Epstein Files when all this started kicking off about them. Actually, the Justice Department getting pressured to actually release them, and she came out in tears. And since then, she has been straight up like, we need to stop giving money to Israel, no more money to Israel, this is a genocide, release the Epstein files immediately. The victims need to make their own list, they need to out every single person who's on that list. Like, she's just been very much like they all need to go, and she's suddenly turned like anti-trump. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_04:So when this like when the so when Epstein's black book first came out, right, which was years ago, like my kid the whole thing, my oldest kid. I haven't even it didn't even have my second kid at this point. Yeah, I had a friend who managed to get it because like you couldn't get it in a few countries and you needed like a it was on like a file through yeah yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he managed to get it. He spent like four months stacked up in his room, yeah, literally like researching every single name in that book and the amount of multi-billionaires.
SPEAKER_00:That's when I read that, that's when I found out this whole uh Elon Musk is the richest man in the world. No, he's not.
SPEAKER_04:No, no, no. He's the most in the public eye richest man. And I'm not huge on conspiracy theories. I was when I was younger, but that shit will rot your brain and put you straight on a right-wing pathway that is danger field. Yeah, but when I tell you he was making like full-on infographs and was like, see, look, he I remember him saying, see, look, this guy, he's in this picture with this famous person, but he's not actually on the thing. He's at the place, but he's not in the pictures on like when you look for that online when you want to see him at all. But when you look for him directly, he, you know, like, and these are all like, you know, like tycoons of like massive companies and things like that, that you'll never see their face unless you actually know them by name to look them up. So fucking scary.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I've been telling people this for years because there was a financial guy on TikTok, and of course he disappeared, but he that's what he used to say. He used to tell people, like, you have no idea who the richest people are in the world. There are people that have more money in one bank account, so to speak, you know, than than Elon Musk has ever seen in his entire life. He was talking about some some guy sent him like a custom gold Lamborghini, like 15 minutes after he hung up a call when he had like helped make the guy a bunch of money and some fund that he had moved the the money between, and 15 minutes later somebody knocked on his door and they had a fucking gold Lamborghini for him in a crate, like in his in his driveway. The crazy, crazy shit. He's like, the people that you think are the richest people in the world that you see, like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk, and how many fights.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, yeah, absolutely blind to what's happening on this cruise ship, but essentially, like rich people like order things through this cartel or whatever, and like there was one where this guy like had ordered some like tribe to be shipped into a human zoo or something like that. And I'm like, all I can think of when you say like a Lamborghini getting shipped that quickly, I'm like, oh my god, like absolutely insane.
SPEAKER_00:Like he he basically said that the the actual richest people in the world could just buy and sell Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk, like it was nothing to them, and they wouldn't even blink, they would still have other bank accounts full of money.
SPEAKER_01:So um it's but that's the thing, like if the world starts turning to shit, what the fuck is money gonna do?
SPEAKER_00:Nothing.
SPEAKER_01:The fuck is money?
SPEAKER_00:It's not gonna do anything. But it's I went through that list as well, and that's going through that black book is how I learned that like the Habsburg family is still around, which is absolutely in freak insane. Um okay, you're you're the history buff, you've got to fill me in because I'm I'm like who the Habsburgs were a German family that essentially took over all the European royal families, like that is terrifying cousins. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like the the the current British family, they're essentially a Habsburg family. There's they're Germans, they're not actually like British.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my god, what? No, because I knew that they were like Austrian or something like that, and they were like I knew there was like uh there's like a whole thing about them being usurpers or something.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, and she married like a a cousin. The Habsburgs all would get into royal families and then start marrying their cousins to keep the bloodlines pure. And that started all the way back. They did this all the way back in like I think they started in like the 1300s or something or the 1100s. Like the Habsburgs, it's it's way far back, and this family still exists, they still have an insane amount of money, they still control a bunch of stuff, and they were giant chins.
SPEAKER_04:Do they have the giant chin defeat?
SPEAKER_00:Actually, actually, I did go and look up a couple of them and started following them quietly on Instagram, not just the Habsburgs, but some of these other old money people that showed up on this this list, and they have like they'll only have like 150 followers or 1,500 followers. They don't have they're not like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But some of them do, you could you could tell. They don't have like they're not like Charles, like uh the French king with the tongue hanging out and stuff, but but it's quite pronounced. It's quite pronounced if you would um not not mistake them for what they are. They again they stay out of the public eye. Why is that? I wonder. Why is that? Why is a uh seven, eight hundred-year-old family that silently took over every royal house in Europe so quiet? Why would that why do they want to be so quiet?
SPEAKER_02:What happened to those?
SPEAKER_04:I remember you mentioning the is it the no I think it was when I was listening to the last podcast on the left when they were talking about uh the Russian oligarch family and what happened to them when they finally lost power. The Romanovs because of yeah, the Romanovs, right, yeah. And how how they retreated. Yeah, see, and and like how they retreated. Like, of course, if we if if if they were found to still exist with the amount of wealth that they have, yeah, people having lost that with that, you know, like they're not in the public eye with their name anymore, but they still have the same wealth and power and pool. Yeah, people would fucking lose their life.
SPEAKER_00:A lot of these old families as well. I found because I when I was spiraling off, and you if you still talk to your friend, you can ask him this because he he'll tell you the same thing. A lot of these old money families that are on that list, which are all the names you expect, a lot of them own banking institutions that the other billionaires use. So they're protecting the money for the other, and they're helping them move the money around and do the investments and do the shell companies and all of that stuff. All of that stuff. I followed the Habsburgs, and there was uh the other big expected family names that were in there that you would expect that own financial institutions that were helping move this money around, and that's how they were tied to Jeffrey Epstein because they were moving money around for him. So it's just it's a big club, and we ain't in it. Um but it's been it's been weird seeing Marjorie Taylor Green, especially turn around and be so spooked. Well, so that's why I I'm convinced, and I keep telling everybody the reason the Epstein files are not coming out has nothing to do with the pedophilia. They don't care about that. That's basically out in the open. Trump just said in an interview, they're now saying it's could be signs of proof that he has dementia. I'm not getting into heaven. He said, I've done way too much bad stuff to get into heaven. He's like, Oh, you know what I mean? After he just made That comment about one of the victims the other day as well.
SPEAKER_04:Weren't they like weren't all the Christians like he's our savior?
SPEAKER_00:He's he's Christ being a good thing. Go and watch the video. He's on Air Force One and he openly he laughs and says, I'm not getting in. I've done way too much bad stuff to get into heaven. Not gonna happen at all. Um I think it's gonna be MK Ultra because it's gonna be our generation's MK Ultra. Because Jeffrey Epstein was doing some weird stuff. There's stories that they're with like dietological.
SPEAKER_04:No, he was still doing no, he was doing Hitler-ash shit, wasn't he? Because there was that whole thing about him wanting to eat what he did. He wanted to breed a super race. Yeah, there it is.
SPEAKER_00:There it is. Yeah. So allegedly, the reason why we can't get our hands on all the footage, because they went and raided the ranch he's got. I think it's in Albuquerque, New Mexico. They went and raided that ranch, and allegedly it had full gynecological facilities. And like terrifying. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:No, because there was a whole thing a while back where they found a facility where women were being forced to have babies.
SPEAKER_00:Bingo. Yeah, that was in The Guardian as well. I shared that on my TikTok. I shared that article on my on my TikTok. But um I think it's gonna be like MK Ultra stuff. And and if you couple that with the birthday book, where you had scientists, and this is courtesy of last podcast on the left, actually. I think it was in one of the side stories where they shared this. Um, there were scientists writing little coded messages in there that 15 is the perfect age. So I think that it's very possible that they were experimenting with impregnant, like impregnating. That's what I think. Yuck! I think there's gonna be stuff like that. I think there's maybe gonna be experimentation on children, you know? That is trying to breed a super race, so he's gonna want to see what the insides are like of this.
SPEAKER_04:I think it's gonna be on a because like we're only like finding out now through science that like women's eggs are actually fine. They're fine, they're fine till the fucking menopause and probably after, right? Yeah, but it's men and their testosterone and not their testosterone, that's wrong. It's men and their sperm. Sorry, it is lay here. Wrong word, but like we know too that like when men get to a certain age, their testosterone does dip. That's why you that's why older men are actually kind to children, you know, because they don't have too much testosterone and they don't want to like fight them to death. Like Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no.
SPEAKER_04:Oh my god, then men go through a menopause, like men go through their menopause. I shit you not. I found about this the other day, and it's like when they hit about 30, 35, explains so much, there's like a whole like cognitive thing that starts happening, and that's when you get all those like irritable, like like fucked off men that are pistol at nothing all the fucking time.
SPEAKER_00:That explains so much, honestly. Like, oh they get it so early, too. That explains everything, actually. That explains everything, everything, everything. Um, but yeah, I don't, I don't, I think because uh when the MK Ultra Files came out, people didn't believe it because it was so messed up that people were like, no way, the government wouldn't do that, absolutely not, right?
SPEAKER_04:Like it was so that sound, and when you think the government wouldn't do that, oh yes, they would.
SPEAKER_00:100%. That's exactly what I was thinking.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, the government cut gov the current governments that are all conservative are literally gutting everything at every fucking turn that they possibly can. Like you like, America is literally like trying to have what their whole government's closed right now because they have like a bill that's trying to gut the healthcare system. You've got like a hair in Alteroa, you've got the three-headed fucking penis trap that's like running us, that's basically like shutting down so much. So many Kiwis have left the country. Really? That the numbers that show that like we're doing bad aren't even correct because so many people have left and we can't have the we don't have the numbers for the how bad they're doing because they were gonna be doing bad under what's happening.
SPEAKER_00:That's terrifying. Literally, people living at least. That's insane. That's happening everywhere. Everyone's trying to leave America as well, from what I hear from real estate agents and things like that, which makes sense. It's understandable, it's very understandable.
SPEAKER_04:But I mean, like I when you told me though that you used to have to pay taxes an American that's left America, I was like, that's fucked.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, one of only two countries that's like us and Iran or something like that, or the only two countries that have to do that.
SPEAKER_04:I don't know enough about Iran for that though. Like, I don't know if that's like an economy thing and like they need like I don't know.
SPEAKER_00:It might be like Turkmenistan, actually, or something like that. It's one of those, it's it's either one of the major, major Middle Eastern powerhouses, or it's like one of the smaller Middle Eastern countries that were also probably under Soviet control at some point, like Uzbekistan or Turkmenistan or something like that.
SPEAKER_04:You're the history buff.
SPEAKER_00:My brain's like, oh, it's like one of those.
SPEAKER_03:It's like Middle Eastern or North, it's one of those.
SPEAKER_00:It might be North Africa. I think it's Middle Eastern, though, like a Middle Eastern Soviet kind of country. But there's only two countries in the world that require their citizens to still pay taxes to the motherland when they leave. It's America and somebody else. America's it's a scam. It's a giant MLM plantation scam.
SPEAKER_04:It's oh yeah, for sure. For sure. As soon as they couldn't be do slavery out loud, they were like, How do we do it in how do we do it quietly?
SPEAKER_00:Everyone can do it. Yeah. How do we do it quietly and also enslave every single person that lives here? How do we do that? Let's do that.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:People, I said that on Twitter. I used to be, I used to just be shooting off my mouth all the time on Twitter or Elon Musk. And I said that a few years ago. I said that I was like, they they didn't get rid of slavery, they just fucking expanded it. And you guys are talking about like women's liberation in America, they just expanded slavery for you too. They just made you a taxpayer. Like you didn't get any extra rights. You just got the right to now work and pay taxes to the government while also still being responsible for everything else that you were already expected to do, giving birth.
SPEAKER_04:I'm pretty sure it was over here. And like I know for well that it was white women trying to get white women's votes, right? I get that, I understand that. It like, but I'm pretty sure the whole like women voting started over here.
SPEAKER_00:Probably, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, like some lady on the$10 bill or$10 bill, something like that. Kate Shepard or some shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Actually, I actually just learned this the other day. Turns out women's suffrage started in Corsica in 1736, 1770, it was 17 something. It was in Corsica, which was is a Greek island. And I don't remember who had control of it first, but then like the I think the British had it, and then maybe like the Spanish or somebody took it, and it was all this, all these people kept coming in and taking over Corsica, so they started rebelling and they wrote their own constitution in the 1700s, and it was the first ever written constitution that had full women's suffrage. Women were seen as fully equal, they had voting rights, they could hold power, and they had the fa I love Rousseau, uh the famous French philosopher Rousseau actually write the constitution for them. And eventually it didn't work out because they got taken over again by I think the British or something like that. But their constitution was the constitution that was used as the basis for the American constitution when it was written in 1776, but they left out women's suffrage because slave owning.
SPEAKER_04:This is not like indigenous cultures were already had women in power and doing all of the things and being in charge of all of the things for a long fucking time. Like pre-Christianity idea, like it's not it's not something that like just because it's written in a book, it didn't exist prior, it definitely existed prior. It's just white people were like, hey, I would like that too. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I think I should feel that. I should preface anything I when I say anything like, oh, this was the first suffrage, I'm talking about post-Abrahamic or like Abrahamic religions are the ones that that have fucked us to this point. Like they are the worst thing that ever happened to the human species, freaking ever. And I'm not saying the human species was great before, right? Like Alexander the Great was pillaging cities, but you would be surprised how much more things made sense back then than they did after Abrahamic religions um made everything way worse. Way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way worse.
unknown:Way worse.
SPEAKER_04:But five or seven AD, Mori had sailed to Antarctica.
SPEAKER_00:That isn't surprising.
SPEAKER_04:That's that that's like massive. That's huge. Like no one was visiting there. They were like, Bet, let's go.
SPEAKER_00:Did they mean to or did they just end up down there? Yeah, we wouldn't go down there.
SPEAKER_04:They had extensive knowledge of the stars.
SPEAKER_00:Like there is they obviously knew which direction they were going.
SPEAKER_04:This is one of my favorite things, right? Is that there is um snippets of moldy culture throughout so many different indigenous populations from history, yeah, that you like because like um because of the trade routes that they already had established before Britain was like we're gonna look and try to colonize you. Oh, yeah. Um, even even uh indigenous Palestinians um had what what would look like a Kowai, which is the the um the I hate saying it's a tattoo, but the markings on the chin and face of like um men and women, but the Kowai specifically on the women, and it's on the chin area. Um and so like there's there's so much um I don't know, like the intertwining that was already there for like so much longer. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:I actually read the other day uh when I was reading about Alexander the Great, which was fascinating to me, is that they actually they don't have they can't say this for concrete because they have not found the Venetian records of it, unfortunately.
SPEAKER_05:Right.
SPEAKER_00:But there are stories that the Venetians had actually, or was it the Venetians? I think it was the Venetians, um, had already no, it's not the Venetians, it was the um uh what are they called? The blinds, you know the you know the blinds that you have in a house that you pull up and down with a string? What are those called? Are they not Venetian blinds, are they?
SPEAKER_04:Well, I think they are.
SPEAKER_00:Are they Venetian blinds? Maybe it was the Venetians. I'm I'm gonna get the people wrong, but anyways, one of the ancient, ancient, ancient seafaring empires, yeah, they were actually they had already circumnavigated the globe, they think, or they had at least gone around Africa and had already made it to North America. But because they don't have the record of the actual sailors, they just have stories in the ancient world of people saying this happened. We can't say that for concrete, but the the ancient world was so much more connected and advanced, I think, than a lot of us want to think. And I would not be shocked at all because I mean Alexander the Great almost stood on the shores of China looking out over the the sea, you know what I mean? Um I wouldn't be surprised if if there's way more interaction between these peoples than some of us like to pretend, especially trade-wise, you know.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, well, that was like the whole point with colonization, right? Like take away every story possible so that they could rewrite history because as the as the saying goes, the st uh, you know, uh history is written by the by the victor, not the oppressed.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:So I had to have a I got into a fight with a douchebag the other day, but he was making the whole point of well, why are you guys just bitching about colonization now when it's the British or you know the Americans? You know, we've been doing this for forever, we've been doing this for thousands of years. We've been doing this since the Roman Empire, yada yada yada. And I had to point out that okay, those people had empires, they technically took over places, but they didn't colonize them, right? Because here's the thing the Romans would just take on. So if the Romans conquered a city, they would adopt the language, they would adopt the forms of dress, they would incorporate the gods into their things. No one had to change the way they did language, they didn't have to change their money, they didn't have to change anything as long as they were willing to power structure. Yeah, and it was the same thing with Alexander the Great. Everywhere they went, they would incorporate different cultures, more cultures, more cultures, more cultures. The Persian Empire, the Persians at the time spoke Farsi, something like ancient Farsi, like that kind of a thing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But when the Persians took over, they noticed that anybody who spoke the native language would end up in government and would end up with the power and would end up with the money. So the Persian, like the king, the great king, and all of his ministers and leaders and stuff, his advisors, changed the national language to the common poor people's language and made everybody speak. You all had to speak that common language in order to take part in government, to trade, to do markets, to do anything.
SPEAKER_04:So everyone could actually participate and know what was being said. Oh my god, that's cool.
SPEAKER_00:They changed their whole language to Akkadian.
SPEAKER_04:The government language was Akkadian, which was like see, like that makes me think about how like there's there was actually a law that they've passed to stop doing things in plain language here, which blocks out so many people from being able to access different things. That's the difference, and there's there's a point to it, right? Like it stops people that aren't educated educated. I'm doing quotations, right? Um, to to be able to access the care, support, and the the things that they would need to exist as a happy, healthy human.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. Wow, these ancient empires didn't do that. They always they always incorporated, they didn't expect people to assimilate to them, they assimilated to these people who they brought into the empire, and and it consistently happened. It was the Persian Empire, the Macedonians did it. You would go to Egypt, and you, if you were a Greek in Egypt, you could go to temples where they had your gods and their gods, and they had incorporated the stories together and would tell you why they were friends and how they were friends, and you could worship whoever you wanted to worship, like they were multi-level things, and that's the the point I'm trying to make.
SPEAKER_04:Like, yes, humans have been violent pieces of shit for forever, but it's this white supremacy colonization, it's we are trying to beat the slavery humans into a homogeneous mob. Yes, it's never has been. Yeah, it's true because like you've got that whole like point where they start, you know, they've they turned any poor white person into that mentality where they think that they're just as high up as the oppressor as well. Like that's where that whole, like, that's where you get a whole bunch of crusty bleach demon humans that are like um they're like, oh, you know, I I have to support this billionaire because like I'm I could be a billionaire one day. They're just like me, they shit and wipe their ass. No cunt. They have a fucking gold-plated bidet. You fucking mean you're closer to poverty on the street and alcoholism and needles than you are to a fucking billionaire. What what?
SPEAKER_00:You know, ancient Athens when they realized they had a problem with rich people only running the city, and like the like the philosophers and the rich guys would just go in the forum and they would talk about things, and they weren't actually helping the actual people that lived and worked on the streets in Athens. So they created a system of government in which um it started with 250 individuals selected from the city, and those individuals, everybody would get a day. You would get you you're in charge of Wednesday, October 13th, or whatever it was, and that was your day, and for that day, you made the decisions for the city. You were basically like the king of the city, and these were common people, and it went through everybody, and eventually they expanded it to like 500 people, and it was by the time they like they got taken down, like the city got taken over, and this a tyrant into this system of government, it was up to 500. Yep, and they they did. They did. The people were actually represented because there was a human that you live next door to that was in charge one day, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:Hey, bro, next week, I'm up, I'm up. What are we doing? What are we implementing? Do we need something over on this street? What's happening over at Jimmy's house?
SPEAKER_00:Like exactly, and I'm not saying it was perfect, right? Because in Athens specifically, women didn't have voting power. But then you also see things across the ancient empires like, well, women weren't voting in Athens, but then you would go two city states over and women ran the whole thing and were in charge of the whole city. Um, also in one of the most famous sea battles of all time, Artemisia, one of the great heroes of that was a woman who had her own fleet. She was a captain of her own fleet. Obviously, women, you know, not this whole it which is also it's been told to us by Christian historians, right? Who definitely have an angle who are like, oh no, women had no rights in the ancient world. They had no rights. Well, they want you to think that. It's it's way more complicated than that.
SPEAKER_04:I mean Wasn't there that lady who like commanded a shit ton of birds to like burn down a whole fucking town because some guy was a piece of shit to her.
SPEAKER_00:Alexander the Great conquered a whole chunk, a whole region that he was gonna avoid for a woman that he was friends with. He didn't have a sexual relationship with her. He looked at her like a mother and he came across her in his campaign and she went, I've I've been screwed here, buddy. That's my city, that's mine. My family owns it, and they kicked me out because I'm a woman, and he went bet. And he went and just basically burned the whole thing down and gave it back to her and gave her a bunch of soldiers and was like, Here you go. Thanks for being pulled.
SPEAKER_04:This is my gay best friend. I got her a whole town because she used to live there, but they didn't like her, so we fucked shit up.
SPEAKER_00:So they obviously didn't because they were willing for women to be in power, so they you know what I mean? It's way more complicated than we've been led to believe. But um, yeah, it the it the colonization, I think that's the that's the point that people should take on is this colonization that we've been talking about that started, you know, with the British Empire and everything else. It's it is so much more sinister than these empires, these ancients. Oh, yeah, because of that.
SPEAKER_04:This is where we go full circle. This is where that behavior is leaking into literally everything people do. Where you've got these mobs that are like, free Britney, free Britney, but they don't actually understand the core aspect of like helping someone get out of that sort of stuff. And then also the way that they are absolutely attacking those children that are uh like do not deserve to be spoken to like that. They they literally deserve to just live a happy, healthy life, and people are treating them like shit because they want to go to bet for some crusty white lady who like peeked at 25.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, it's a it's tribalism, it's a tribalist kind of mentality. People just want to uh I'm starting to realize that social media entertainment as it is now, the the media, the entertainment media, it is just basically a an execution pyre. It's a pyre that people come to. You want to tune in, watch someone get burned at the stake, and then you'll be back next week to to watch the next person get burned at the stake.
SPEAKER_04:It's yeah, it's that movie Death Race. It's Death Race with extra steps.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, yeah, it's very, very bad. So that's why like I don't take things seriously. I got asked three times to be on Pierce Morgan like a few months ago and not doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not doing it.
SPEAKER_04:And then also that motherfucker will trap you into the dumbest fucking arguments for no fucking reason.
SPEAKER_00:There would be no, there would be no good that could come out of it. Would I get a lot of attention? Absolutely. Do I want that attention? Absolutely not. No, no, absolutely not, absolutely not. It's the same thing. The the uh what's his name? Dr. Phil. The Dr. Phil show tried to get me twice as well.
SPEAKER_04:I would go on Dr. Phil just to headbutt him. He is a dick. He is a dick.
SPEAKER_00:He's not really a doctor.
SPEAKER_04:No, he's not legally a doctor, he's not even legally a psychiatrist. Bro never fucking like again, another one who peaked once he got his dick sucked. Like, what?
SPEAKER_00:One thing you don't want to do is put uh a southerner on a stage with another southerner they hate. It does not go well. It's just not, there's no no good's gonna come up.
SPEAKER_04:I'm a southerner from a different fucking country too. So like the rules are different here, buddy. Headbutts are all round.
SPEAKER_00:But yeah, it is. It's just it's all and it's just sad to see Britney's kids, you know, as now well, we're gonna put them on the pyre. It's just uh No, but like I hope they don't.
SPEAKER_04:I hope they just step back and they're just like, let's just not like they've already not engaged in like the the whole social aspect, don't you dear.
SPEAKER_00:I really I really hope. I think um I think and I hope that maybe Kevin Federline is an example of a guy who actually grew up. He uh I the more I learn, the more I'm kind of thinking he sounds like someone who genuinely grew up and did what he was supposed to do, which is what we hound people to do. So maybe we should give him a little bit of grace and just kind of hear things out, you know?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah, I mean like that's the whole point, right? We're supposed to be able to let people try and be the parents that they want to be.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um, and if they have access to the information to be able to do so, then like it's up to them. Like, and obviously, by the looks of it from the outside, with what I have been told by yourself and and all that, is he's doing from what it looks like the right things. He's kept his kids off social media, he's waited until they're adults. Well, we I like to say 25 is an adult because that whole prefrontal cortex thing, but he's waited until they're able to turn around and be like, Yeah, dad, you can go do the thing now, because at the end of the day, like like we're not that obviously they're not make they're not writing books, they could have written books by now. They're old enough to go do that. They they, you know, yeah, capable, obviously. So they're letting him tell their story. Like it's he's trying.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna listen and just kind of see what shakes out. Um it's very, very clear there's something not right with Brittany, and I don't think she need I'm I'm not saying she never should have been let out of the conservatorship. I've seen a lot of those comments on my social media with people being saying, she never should have been freed, she never should have been enslaved because she's a person, right? Like even if she's disabled, she's she's she has a right to like choose.
SPEAKER_04:She deserves access to like good care, like any human being does, but to refuse that care and continue to behave in a way that is detrimental to not just her own physical and mental health, but to her children's and to her entire brand, I guess, if we want to talk about it in that sort of aspect. Like, no, she needs help. Someone needs to actually just be like, get help.
SPEAKER_00:She needs to not be on social media because I think that that just kind of validates where she's at. Um it's just sad. The whole the whole thing is just absolutely tragic, top to bottom. I just really hope people just leave the kids out of it. Just it just just treat it like a housewives conversation. If you're one of those people and you're listening to this, you're someone who likes to get in the comments and fight and bully over entertainment and pop culture. Fine, that's fine. Housewives rules, kids are off the table. Don't talk about the kids. Shut up about the kids. You talk about husbands, don't talk about the kids. Um, that's what I think. And this these poor, poor, poor kids, man. These poor fucking kids. We'll we'll see what happens. Um, I'm not gonna buy the book or anything because I don't want to financially contribute to that, but I'll listen to the interviews um and just kind of weigh it against Brittany's Britney's gonna be.
SPEAKER_04:It's on you, man. I don't, I don't, I don't follow enough of that social, like, I only get stuff. Yeah, my brain falls apart when I listen to that stuff. I'm like, oh wow. But I guess I I understand like keeping up with it, right? Because at the end of the day, we live in a culture that like platforms these people and uses that and utilizes that to control the masses. And what what did Britney do? She had an entire mass of people go absolutely batch it for her and and free Britney. So, like the and and people need to look at that from an outside perspective, right? Like at the end of the day, thousands and thousands of people were manipulated in a way that put an a person on a platform who potentially is not healthy enough to be in that platform to then continue to help those people get let themselves be manipulated and pretend like they're doing something good when they're actually not, because you're you're platforming one person, one crusty bleach demon over, I don't know, thousands of black brown indigenous voices that should be platformed because they actually know what they're fucking talking about and doing. But no, no, no, they didn't make songs through the 90s, they didn't shave their head and have an entire thing named after them because of it. Like God.
SPEAKER_00:It's gonna be um, if I genuinely think after just sitting and watching her, it's gonna be a tragedy if someone doesn't step in soon and actually try to compassionately help her. I think a good step would not, I'm I'm not saying someone needs to come in and force pills down her throat and lock her up. That's not true.
SPEAKER_04:Everyone deserves compassion.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, I'm saying someone needs to come and get her off social media first and foremost. I think that would be a great way to help her find some clarity, is if she could just be off social media for a little while and didn't have people hitting the like button every time she does something horrible and crazy. Um, I don't think she understands that people want to watch her burn. I think she thinks like if I get a like, that's a fan telling me good job, I'm gonna keep doing it. Um yeah, so there we go. That's our episode for the week. Yeah. Uh nice casual. We'll have to come up with some name for this, like some casual shit talk name. Uh Britney Spears, what else do we cover? Marjorie Taylor Green, Epstein, lots of stuff, lots of goodies, lots of good stuff.
SPEAKER_03:We went to Roman bag.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, we went. We did have a little history lesson, quick history. Always, if you're if you're stuck talking to me, history's gonna come up. That's just unfortunately the way things are. Uh, we'll be back next week at some point uh with an episode. I'm not gonna make any promises this time because we have a couple of ideas brewing, and we're gonna give you some good Halloween-y kind of things. Oh, yeah. Yes, which is gonna be very funny. We might do that one for the next episode.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely absolutely ourselves to anything because we have PDA, and that means we will probably not want to do it if we say it out loud. So we're not saying it out loud because we're just doing things.
SPEAKER_00:Lesson learned. So you'll get an episode next week, and it might be one thing or it might be another thing, and hopefully you'll be hopefully you'll be there to listen to that thing that we talk about because that's what it's gonna be. So that is gonna be it for this episode. Connie, do you want to say anything anything to close out? All right, guys, we'll talk to you next week. Uh, remember, follow us on the social media things. We're on Instagram, uh, all that jazz. And you can also uh follow our podcast and give us a nice review on Apple and Spotify and all the good stuff. And you can join our Patreon if you want to help us grow this podcast and see some extra fun stuff. Got some extra videos and photos and all that good stuff from the Amazon.
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